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Boo! It's Lisa from Manchester (a Zoology student and brief Green Action group member - do you remember me? One of Dani Linton's friends...
Oddly enough... I have found you through the "green feed" on twitter - which took me to a blog (bristling badger) - and I spotted your name in the blogroll!
Anywayyyyy - how the devil are you? I have been listening to your stuff on myspace! OUTSTANDING!!!
Drop me a line sometime!I am working for Greenpeace International in Amsterdam.
You can e.mail at lisa(dot)vickers(at)greenpeace(dot)org
This is Tom Athanasiou, one of the authors of Greenhouse Development Rights.
Bravo. Very nice piece. BUT you are wrong about GDRs not including historical responsibility.
The GDRs obligation indicator -- calculated for all countries is actually called a "Responsibility and Capacity Indicator."
It is true that, in the default case, we calculate R starting from 1990, which some folks consider to be wrong. But we have our reasons for doing so, and the "responsibility start date" is in any case a "tweakable parameter."
Thanks for the clarification, Tom. Unfortunately, when trying to boil complex ideas down into a few snappy sentences some of these details can get lost!
I guess the point is that where countries feel that they are being unfairly punished by targets that do not consider the full historical contribution made by all countries since the industrial revolution, anything based on emissions since 1990 isn't going to help them feel better on that particular point. But I should have made it clearer that GDRs do indeed have the capacity to address historical responsibility.
So sorry about that. But overall, I stand by my main point that while these kinds of details are vital for the negotiating table, at the moment we need some strong, simple messages that loads of people and groups can unite behind, and "get rid of carbon trading" seems like a good one to me. Then when people ask the question "what's the alternative?" we can start talking in more detail about GDRs and everything else.
17/06/2015: Guest poetry performance at the "Resistance is Fertile" poetry slam, Ovada arts space, Oxford, 8pm: https://www.facebook.com/events/1096258550389675/
25/06/2015: Re-enacting the story of BP or not BP? live onstage! 1pm, Speakers Forum, Green Futures Field, Glastonbury Festival
26/06/2015: Poetry as part of the Rabble Rousers team, 5.30pm, Toad Hall stage, Green Futures Field, Glastonbury Festival
27/06/2015: "Arrest That Poet!", 11am, Speakers Forum, Green Futures Field, Glastonbury Festival
28/06/2015: Poetry as part of the Rabble Rousers team, 5.00pm, Speakers Forum stage, Green Futures Field, Glastonbury Festival
10/07/2015: "Arrest That Poet!" at the Burton Taylor Studio, Oxford Playhouse, 7.30pm: http://www.oxfordplayhouse.com/show/?eventid=3431
30/05/2015: Poetry and storytelling at Reclaim the Power camp, Didcot
27/05/2015: Poetry at Reclaim The Power fundraiser, The Hive, Dalston
22/05/2015: Performance at "Flocking Environmentalists" event, Isis pub, Oxford
18/05/2015: Speaking about oil sponsorship at PCS Culture Sector conference, Brighton
16/05/2015: Performing the story of BP or not BP?, Kindling stage, Wood Festival
18/02/2015: "Arrest That Poet!" at Green Party benefit gig, Gonzo's bar, Norwich
14/02/2015: "Arrest That Poet!" at anti-fracking fundraiser, 1 in 12 Club, Bradford
21/01/2015: Performance at the "Anti-Slam", Old Fire Station, Oxford
21/11/2014: Double bill gig in London with Pete the Temp: "Arrest That Poet!" AND "Pete the Temp vs Climate Change". Free Word Centre, Farringdon, London, 6.30pm
22/10/2014: Performance in Parliament Square for Occupy Democracy
10/10/2014: "Arrest That Poet" at House of the Commons event, Methodist Church, Cowley Rd, Oxford
04/10/2014: Eco-poetry workshop for Methodist Independent Schools Trust, Swindon
21/09/2014: Performance in Exter College chapel, Oxford as part of "Tipping Point" event, http://www.tippingpoint.org.uk
10/09/2014: Poetry at "New Frontlines of Development: Private Security Companies and Corporate Extraction" by War on Want, at the British Academy, Carlton House Terrace, London, 6pm
24/08/2014: Performance of "Arrest that Poet!" at Rebel Soul stage, Shambala Festival, 5.00pm
22/08/2014: Performance of "Arrest that Poet!" at Rebel Soul stage, Shambala Festival, 6.45pm
14/08/2014 - 20/08/2014: Performances and talks at "Reclaim the Power" anti-fracking action camp, Blackpool, www.nodashforgas.org.uk
02/08/2014 - 13/08/2014: "Arrest That Poet!" Edinburgh Free Fringe show, Stafford Centre, Edinburgh, 18.15 daily (except Thurs 7th)
26/06 - 29/06/2014: Various talks and performances at the Speakers Forum and Toad Hall, Green Futures Field, Glastonbury Festival
23/06/2014: "Arrest That Poet!" Edinburgh warm-up show, Newport Green Drinks, The Pheasant Inn (The Phez), Upper Bar/High Street, Newport Shropshire, TF10 8NB, 8pm
20/06/2014: "Arrest That Poet!" Edinburgh warm-up show at the Balham Free Fringe, London
16/06/2014: Demonstration of cycle and solar power sound system at Rob Newman's "New Theory of Evolution" show, Pegasus Theatre, Oxford
23/05/2014: Performance at "Flocking Environmentalists" event, Isis Farmhouse, Oxford
17/05/2014: "Arrest That Poet!" Edinburgh warm-up show, Olives Bar, Norwich (Greenpeace benefit gig)
13/05/2014: Guest slot at Oxford Hammer & Tongue, OId Fire Station, George Street, Oxford 8pm
03/05/2014: Talk and performance at "Breaking the Frame" event at Unstone Grange
01/05/2014: Performance on the Oxford Playhouse's soapbox, out on the streets as part of the May Morn celebrations, Oxford!
23/04/2014: "Arrest That Poet!" Edinburgh warm-up show, Cambridge, Burleigh Arms
15/05/2014: "Two Energy Futures" talk at Lush shop, Manchester
14/04/2014: "Two Energy Futures" talk at Lush shop, Sheffield
05/04/2014: "Arrest That Poet!" and Reclaim Shakespeare talk/performance at the Wise Words festival, Canterbury
08/03/2014: Benefit gig for the Barton Moss anti-fracking protectors, Irlam Steel Club
05/03/2014: Poetry at the Firry Mic, Fir Tree pub, Iffley Rd, Oxford 8pm
22/02/2014: Speaking on how a 100% renewably powered world is possible at the Warwick Climate Forum, http://www.warwickclimateforum.org/
11/02/2014: Oxford Hammer & Tongue, Old Fire Station
19/01/2014: Performance as part of surprise theatrical protest in BP-sponsored Tate Britain, with the Reclaim Shakespeare Company - http://bp-or-not-bp.org/news/shakespearean-flashmob-hits-bp-sponsored-tate-britain
20/12/2013: Special performance of "Arrest That Poet!" at the Aspire charity Christmas party, Oxford
02/12/2013: Poetry performance at the "Push Your Parents" ethical investment event, EPA Science Centre, Museum Rd, Oxford
22/11/2013: Performing poetry at Palestine Solidarity benefit gig (supporting Cosmo), Port Mahon, Oxford
25/10/2013: Surprise protest performance as part of the Shell Out Sounds choir inside the Shell-sponsored Royal Festival Hall: http://shelloutsounds.org
20/08/2013: Performance of "Arrest That Poet!" at the Reclaim the Power camp, Balcombe
13/08 - 14/08/2013: Performances at Edinburgh Fringe Festival, as part of the Free Fringe at the Fiddler's Elbow and Banshee venues
28/07 - 04/08/2013: Talks and workshops at Young Friends of the Earth Europe summer camp, Lofoten, Norway
27/06 - 30/06/2013: Performance as part of the "Rabble Rousers" poetry troupe with Lucy Ayrton and Merrick, Various times, Speakers Forum, Greenfields, Glastonbury Festival.
18/05/2013: Talk and performance at Wood Festival, Braziers Park, Oxfordshire
27/04/2013: Poetry Workshop at City Circle Saturday School, London
17/04 - 19/04/2013: Talk, workshop and performances at the EUAC National Conference, Nottingham
03/03/2013 - Talk at the E-Campaigners Forum in Oxford, about No Dash For Gas
13/02/2013 - "The History Professor from the Future: how we solved the climate crisis". Talk/performance for the Oxford University People & Planet Society, Oxford Hubs
29/11/2012 - Performing poetry at the Lake Street Playgroup fundraising gig, 8pm, 1 Folly Bridge, Oxford
24/11/2012 - Speaking and performing at the Warwick Climate Forum, See www.warwickclimateforum.org/
18/11/2012 - Shakespearean theatrical anti-BP flashmob at the British Museum, 3pm. Seehttp://bp-or-not-bp.org/news/shakespearean-flashmob-hits-bp-sponsored-british-museum/
15/11/2012 - Late poetry gig at the Albion Bookshop, Walton Street, Oxford, 9.30pm.
13/11/2012 - Poetry performance in St Andrews, hosted by the People & Planet society, 8pm.
12/11/2012 - "The History Professor from the Future: how we solved the climate crisis". Talk/performance at the University of Edinburgh, 7pm at the Chaplaincy
10/11/2012 - Speaking about No Dash For Gas at the New Putney Debates, London - see http://thenewputneydebates.wordpress.com/
15/10/2012 - Surprise stage invasion at the Shell-sponsored climate change conference, Chatham House. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lEjgPePdUg
12/10/2012, 8pm - Slam The Cuts at the Cuts Cafe, London. With Claire Fauset, Pete the Temp and Street Lighting Man.
09/10/2012, 8pm - Hammer and Tongue Poetry Slam, the Old Fire Station, Oxford
28/09/2012, 1pm - Farewell poetry performance at ActionAid UK
21/09/2012 6.30pm - Surprise anti-BP Shakespearean performance at the British Museum, with the Reclaim Shakespeare Company. See http://bp-or-not-bp.org/news/british-museums-shakespeare-late-sees-surprise-anti-bp-performances
15/09/2012 - Panel debate about sustainability and the arts, followed by an evening poetry performance, at the Friends of the Earth National Conference, London - http://www.foe.co.uk/events/conference_7967.html
12/08/2012 - Poetry performance at the Wilderness Festival, Oxfordshire, as part of a debate on consumerism
03-04/08/2012 - Various talks and performances at the Green Gathering, Chepstow, with Occupy London
28/07/2012 - Poetry and Guerrilla Shakespeare at the Counter Olympic Network demonstration, London
26/07/2012 - Chairing the Green Party Leadership Hustings, Friends Meeting House, Oxford
22/07/2012 - Guerrilla performance with the Reclaim Shakespeare Company at the British Museum, London (www.bp-or-not-bp.org)
13-15/07/2012 - Various talks and performances at the Latitude Festival, with Occupy London
07 - 08/07/2012 - Various talks and performances at Lushfest, Dorset, with Cyc du Soleil
27/06/2012 - Guerrilla performance with the Reclaim Shakespeare Company at the Roundhouse Theatre, London (www.bp-or-not-bp.org)
16/06/2012 - Talks and poetry at the Alternative Rio+20 Conference, SOAS, London
01/06/2012 - "The History Professor From The Future" talk at The Museum From The Future, Old Fire Station, Oxford
26/05/2012 - Undercover cop talk and poetry performance at Friends of the Earth Cymru Conference, Hawarden
25/05/2012 - Poetry at Greenpeace Birthday Fundraiser, East Oxford Community Centre
12/05/2012 - Poetry at "Environmental Rock" mini-festival, The Hobbit Pub, Southampton
05/05/2012 - Poetry and "Guided Tour of the 1%" at Occupy London/350.org "Connect the Dots" climate action day, St Paul's, London
19/04/2012 - Poetry performance at the Occupy Brookes camp, outside the Gipsy Lane Campus, Oxford Brookes University
18/04/2012 - Poetry at The Firry Mic, The Fir Tree, Oxford
10/04/2012 - Performance at Hammer & Tongue Slam, Old Fire Station, Oxford
30/03/2012 - Poetry performance at "Not the Oxford Literary Festival", Albion Beatnik Bookshop, Oxford
24/03/2012 - Climate science talk and poetry performance at alternative Rio+20 conference, Feminist Library, London
25/02/2012 - Climate talk and eco-poetry workshop at Warwick University Go Green Week
23/02/2012 - eco-poetry workshop and climate change talk, hosted by the Welwyn Hatfield Interfaith Group, Howe Dell School, Hatfield
13/02/2012 - climate change workshop at the "Energy Academy" training event for energy assessors, Trafford Hall, Chester
05/02/2012 - 4.30pm, climate action workshop at Tent City University, Occupy London, St Paul's
03/02/2012 - 9.30pm, poetry performance at the Oxford Climate Forum, Turl Street Kitchen
30/01/2012 - 7.30pm, Climate workshop and book talk for Cambridge WDM, Friends' Meeting House
22/01/2012 - 6pm "Economic justice and climate justice" workshop at the Bank of Ideas, Sun Street (Occupy London)
22/01/2012 - 2pm "Climate Catch-up" workshop at the Bank of Ideas, Sun Street (Occupy London)
14/01/2012 - 3pm performance on the steps on St Paul's as part of Occupy London's Arctic ice event.
14/09/11 - 20/12/11: I was out of the country for some flightless travel around the Med by boat, bus, train and camel.
07/09/2011 - "Undercover and Over-the-Top" talk for Derby WDM group, The Voicebox, Foreman St
06/09/2011 - "Undercover and Over-the-Top" talk for Kendal WDM group
27/08/2011 - poetry performance at the Aeon Festival, Devon
24/08/2012 - "Undercover and Over-the-Top" talk at the Lectern pub, Brighton
02/08 - 04/08/2011 - Talks, performances and workshops at the Woodcraft Folk CoCamp, Walesby Forest Activity Centre
01 and 02/08/2011 - Talk and workshop at Methodist School of Fellowship, Swanwick, Derbyshire
21/07/2011 - 7pm "Undercover and over-the-top: how an undercover cop made my trial collapse" - talk/performance hosted by Radish bookshop, Chapel Allerton, Leeds
20/07/2011 - 8.00pm Talk/performance hosted by the local WDM group, Marine Hotel, Marine Parade, Saltburn
19/07/2011 - 7.30pm "Undercover and over-the-top: how an undercover cop made my trial collapse" - talk/performance at City Screen Basement, York
18/07/2011 - Talk/performance for Macclesfield WDM, St Michael's & All Angels Church, Market Place
14/07/2011 - 7.30pm, Performance as part of "Deep Green Delights" mini-festival, Leytonstone Library 6 Church Lane, Leytonstone E11 1HG London
13/07/2011 - 7.30pm, Talk for Warborough & Shillingford Women's Institute at Greet Hall, Sinodun View, Warborough OX10
11/07/2011 - Talk/performance in London, hosted by local WDM groups, at WDM head office, Oval
08/07/2011 - 7.30pm "Some good news for a (climate) change" - book talk hosted by WDM Manchester, 461 Parrs Wood Rd, Didsbury
07/07/2011 - 7.30pm Talk about climate action, undercover cops, slam poetry and my new book, hosted by Friends of the Earth Cymru at The Dingle Club Spring Gardens, Jesse Rd, Narberth
06/07/2011 - 7.30pm Book talk hosted by Friends of the Earth Cymru at the Milgi Lounge, City Rd, Cardiff
30/06/2011, various times - Performance at Lushfest, Dorset, with Cyc du Soleil
26/06/2011 - 2.15pm Triple-bill performance with Claire Fauset and Merrick, Speakers' Forum, Greenfields area, Glastonbury Festival
25/06/2011 - 2.15pm Talk on "Undercover Police and the Green Movement", Speakers' Forum, Greenfields area, Glastonbury Festival
24/06/2011 - 2.15pm Triple-bill performance with Claire Fauset and Merrick, Speakers' Forum, Greenfields area, Glastonbury Festival
22/06/2011 - Talk and performance at Sustainable Schools Conference, County Hall, London
20/06/2011 - 10.30am, Climate workshop at People and Planet Summer Gathering, http://peopleandplanet.org/navid12328
15/06/2011 - 7pm, Talk/performance at Housmans Bookshop, 5 Caledonian Road, Kings Cross, London
14/06/2011 - 2pm, Eco-poetry workshop at Sustainable Schools conference, De Montfort University, Leicester. www.dmu.ac.uk/schoolsevent
13/06/2011 - 2pm - 5pm talk, workshop and performance at Birmingham University, Arts Building.
07/06/2011 - Eco-poetry workshops at Keys Meadow School, Enfield
05/06/2011 - Performance at the Speakers Forum, London Green Fair, Regents Park
31/05/2011 - Workshop and performance at the "This Is Rubbish" tent, Hay-on-Wye Festival
24 - 25/05/2011 - Talk, workshop and performance at the “Challenging Uncertainties” conference for Education in Sustainable Development, http://www.challenginguncertainties.se/
16/05/2011 - 7.30pm, Talk and performance at Pogo Café, 76 Clarence Road, Hackney, London, E5 8HB
12/05/2011 - Performance at FARM shop, Dalston, London
06/05/2011 - 7.30pm, Night of the Green Poets at the Hornbeam Café, 458 Hoe Street, Walthamstow, E17 9AH
04/05/2011 - Talk and performance at Free Hetherington occupation, University of Glasgow
03/05/2011 - Talk and performance for St Andrews University One World Society, St Andrews
02/05/2011 - Talk and performance for Edinburgh University People & Planet group
26/04/2011 - 7.30pm, Performance at Rrrants at the Goat Inn, 37 Sopwell Lane, St Albans, AL1 1RN
25/04/2011 - 7.30pm, Performance for Headstand, at The Emperor, Hills Road, Cambridge.
24/04/2011 - Talk and performance at the OKasional Café, Manchester
23/04/2011 - 7pm: Talk and performance at the Next To Nowhere Social Centre (next door to News From Nowhere bookshop), basement of 96 Bold St, Liverpool, L1 4HY
01/04/2011 - Book talk at RISC, Reading
30/03/2011 - Performance at Oxfordjam Cabaret, Jam Factory, Oxford
24/03/2011 - Performance at the Open Arts Cafe, London
21/03/2011 - Book talk at Newport Green Drinks, Shropshire
20/03/2011 - Book talk at the Manchester University student occupation
30/04/09 - University of Aberdeen, The Tunnels, 8pm, "Verbal Remedies" political performance tour with People & Planet and the New Internationalist
27/04/09 - University of Edinburgh, 8pm, Teviot Row House, "Verbal Remedies" political performance tour with People & Planet and the New Internationalist
25/04/09 - St. Andrews University Poetry Slam, On The Rocks Arts Festival, 8pm Students' Association, St Andrews
24/04/09 - Stirling University, Robbins Building, 8pm, "Verbal Remedies" political performance tour with People & Planet and the New Internationalist
11/04/09 - The Lean Green Poetry-Crunching Machine, Oxfringe Festival. 9.15pm, The Brewery Gate, St Thomas Street, Oxford, OX1 1JJ
06/04/09 - Poetry and a Pint, 8pm, Chester Arms, Chester St, Oxford OX4
03/04/09 - Fossil Fools Day poetry and music event, Global Cafe, Reading
01/04/09 - Climate Camp in the City, various performances and workshops, Bishopsgate, London
26/03/09 - Performance and Poetry Workshops, Hitherfield Primary School, Streatham
15/03/09 - Age of Stupid Screening, Vue Cinema, Reading (post-screening talk and poetry performance)
13/03/09 - Area 51, Westminster University Harrow Campus, 8pm, "Verbal Remedies" political performance tour with People & Planet and the New Internationalist
10/03/09 - Halo Bar, Gloucester Rd, Bristol, 8pm, "Verbal Remedies" political performance tour with People & Planet and the New Internationalist
02/03/09 - East Slope Bar, Sussex University, Brighton, 8pm, "Verbal Remedies" political performance tour with People & Planet and the New Internationalist
24/02/09 - Warwick University Poetry Slam 7pm, Kami Bar, "Verbal Remedies" political performance tour with People & Planet and the New Internationalist
01/11/08 - Halloween Party at the East Oxford Community Centre
14/10/08 - Firry Mic at the Fir Tree, Oxford
12/10/08 - Words and Music Festival, Nantwich. Supporting Don Paterson, 11.30am, Nantwich Museum, and afternoon acoustic session at Costa Coffee(!). http://www.wordsandmusicfestival.com
07/10/08 - Jam Factory, Oxford
31/08/08 - Urban Green Fair, Brixton, http://urbangreenfair.org
08/08/08 - Climate Poetry Night at the Camp for Climate Action, nr. Kingsnorth power station, Kent
12/07/08 - Radio Foreplay at Fuel Bar, Manchester
11/07/08 - EMERGE Recycling 10th Anniversary Event, Moonlight Bar, Manchester
26/06 - 29/06/08 - Speakers' Forum, Glastonbury Festival
30/05 to 01/06/08 - Wychwood Festival (with the New Internationalist and Hammer & Tongue), Cheltenham
07/05/08 - Islington Council Climate Change Partnership - Annual Awards
06/05/08 - Hammer and Tongue Slam Final, The Vaults Cafe, Oxford
02/04/08 - Oxfringe, Comedy & Poetry at Far From The Madding Crowd (www.oxfringe.co.uk)
29/03/08 - Oxfringe / Gappy Tooth Industries gig at the Wheatsheaf, High St, Oxford (www.oxfringe.co.uk)
08/03/08 - International Slam, Oxford vs. New York Live Link-Up! Science Oxford, St Clements, Oxford and The Nuyorican, New York, 8 – 11pm GMT, 3 - 6pm EST
29/02/08 - Supporting Stornoway at the Jericho Tavern, Oxford, 9pm
16/02/08 - Open mic poetry night, The Shop, Jesus Lane, Cambridge
16/02/08 - "Climate Change - What Next?" conference, Cambridge University (with the Student Climate Project)
12/02/08 - Kenyan Red Cross Fundraiser, St Cross College, Oxford
29/01/08 - Workshop / performance, Creative Writing & Climate Change event, Oxford University Centre for Environment
14/12/07 - Workshop / performance, Forum for the Future Masters programme, London
07/12/07 - "White Night" Oxford Celebrations, History of Science Museum
04/12/07 - Hammer & Tongue Open Poetry Slam, East Oxford Community Centre
01/12/07 - Student Climate Project Gathering, East Oxford Community Centre
I am currently running talks and workshops based on my recent book "No-Nonsense Renewable Energy", calculating carbon footprints for development charities, running eco-poetry workshops in schools, planning new performances of my stage show, and co-managing the 'Cyc du Soleil' cycle-and-solar powered sound system for bringing low-carbon performance and education to festivals, schools and other events.
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Boo! It's Lisa from Manchester (a Zoology student and brief Green Action group member - do you remember me? One of Dani Linton's friends...
Oddly enough... I have found you through the "green feed" on twitter - which took me to a blog (bristling badger) - and I spotted your name in the blogroll!
Anywayyyyy - how the devil are you? I have been listening to your stuff on myspace! OUTSTANDING!!!
Drop me a line sometime!I am working for Greenpeace International in Amsterdam.
You can e.mail at lisa(dot)vickers(at)greenpeace(dot)org
I still remember "Chivers Delivers!"
:-)
Hi Danny,
read the piece via ecotist shout out on twitter.
Very clear and witty analysis. Will shamelessly steal it for Copenhagen public meeting next Tuesday, 10th.
Marc Hudson
www.manchesterclimatefortnightly.info
www.manchesterclimateforum.org.uk
Howdy;
This is Tom Athanasiou, one of the authors of Greenhouse Development Rights.
Bravo. Very nice piece. BUT you are wrong about GDRs not including historical responsibility.
The GDRs obligation indicator -- calculated for all countries is actually called a "Responsibility and Capacity Indicator."
It is true that, in the default case, we calculate R starting from 1990, which some folks consider to be wrong. But we have our reasons for doing so, and the "responsibility start date" is in any case a "tweakable parameter."
Anyway, lovely.
-- toma
Thanks for the clarification, Tom. Unfortunately, when trying to boil complex ideas down into a few snappy sentences some of these details can get lost!
I guess the point is that where countries feel that they are being unfairly punished by targets that do not consider the full historical contribution made by all countries since the industrial revolution, anything based on emissions since 1990 isn't going to help them feel better on that particular point. But I should have made it clearer that GDRs do indeed have the capacity to address historical responsibility.
So sorry about that. But overall, I stand by my main point that while these kinds of details are vital for the negotiating table, at the moment we need some strong, simple messages that loads of people and groups can unite behind, and "get rid of carbon trading" seems like a good one to me. Then when people ask the question "what's the alternative?" we can start talking in more detail about GDRs and everything else.
Anyway, keep up the good work!
Danny x
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